I had it for a long time and it started to break. I have some Cherokee Blood, perhaps one-sixteenth Cherokee. For instance this collage that you put on the cover of. Theres no garbage. 111DR: To go on with my list: We are secretly holding the ghost dance, take care of the pines where we sleep, I have the Antlers she.. AN: I learned a lot from him on that level. I was wondering about your thoughts on Native Americans. And the past & future & I born too. Which gives you bits of advice and instructions. Its deliberate, in order to find something out. New Addresses was influenced by my autobiographical book that almost won the Pulitzer Prize, Mystery of Small Houses (1998), getting him to dredge up his past, bravely. Alice Notley: That's the future. I was one of his friends in Paris. Alice Notley has earned a reputation as one of the most challenging and engaging radical female poets at work today. Tracing the fight for equality and womens rights through poetry. I am furious about people calling their speech against Trump the resistance. However, I have a poem, which happened to be written before Trump was elected, in an anti-Trump-type anthology thats coming out because I figure any place I can get a poem published is an occasion to seize. Bernadette Mayer writes through the pandemic. However, New York Poetry authorized one to draw from others, taking a bit from this one, and from that one, which I did for a long time. I dont give a AN: When its around me, I take it in. This is before the lost sacred corpus vision, someone says Look at my author photo. West Branch, Iowa: Toothpaste Press, 1981. Grin, laugh unbecomingLiving at the bottom of the water mayhave been obvious all the time. 1967; University of Iowa, Iowa City, M.F.A . Ive written so much in my life that Ive become able to control it all; and when it feels like Im letting go, Im not. 9AN: I dont remember that poem, Syringa, but John tends to pick things out: he used to keep lists of his titles and then he would decide to write the poem of that title. there was a picture of a model with antlers on her head and she was in a fashion show that day on the runwayshe was wearing antlers: it was a premonitory dream. AN: Probably, I wouldnt dance, but Anne might. NOTLEY, AliceNationality: American. There are others over there. There was a piece of paper on my door that said: in your building there were two Jewish children who were taken to the camps; we are going to have a ceremony for the unveiling of a plaque on the rue de Chabrol. Cellophane-covered CD. He would fly to Paris, find me, and we would have dinner; also, he had a group of Paris friends. 89DR: Right, thats a strong, colonizing streak in Western culture. For your work, from that angle, the place to start would be the collages you make, your visual art. Humbleflannel skeleton. New York: Penguin Poets, 2016. Edwin Denby made his name as a dance critic, but his poetry was a pivotal influence on the writers and artists of the New York School. New York: United Artists, 1979. I have some Cherokee Blood, perhaps one-sixteenth Cherokee. 114AN: To quote Jack Kerouac, avoid the authorities. If you have the talent you have to avoid them. DR: I think for the reader those part-words can function to foreground an elsewhere. YouTube. BRETON, Andr. 82AN: Its not a dance; its a pattern of sounds: its in my voice which I think is sometimes better than singing, when I say the poems. Thats what Ive done ever since in different ways. It so happens that there are many of those trees, syringas, in Rochester, NY, where hes from. When I read. I was wondering if your poems that address completely despicable people might be a case of carrying the enemy on the shoulder. staying at the Htel des Grands Hommes with his surrealist friends, who wont get into the Panthon either. He taught some writing: one writing class, and one civilization and literature class. DR: Eileen Myles is another poet who comes from an Irish, working-class, New England background and lost her father. In his humorous anti-manifesto, Personism, the poet Frank OHara discloses one of arts great truths: you just go on your nerve. Considering this truth, he wonders, But how can you really care if anybody gets it, or gets what it means, or if it improves them. In the search for immediacy, he writes, questions of accessibility can come to seem pointless: Improves them for what? This interview took place in Alice Notleys apartment in Paris, in June 2018. Her mother was Polish and her father Irish. Request a transcript here. [14] Several poems from her 2007 collection In the Pines were set to music by the Canadian indie pop band AroarA for their 2014 Polaris Music Prize-nominated 2013 EP In the Pines[15] and in Fall 2014, a conference celebrating Notley's work was held at the Bay Area Public School in Oakland, California. ; but that bird was in a book; you see that phrase there marks what I was barred from: so the thing to see is that Im in jail and they wont let me into the Htel des Grands Hommes. Which is the Panthon. Dsamre. One of her main currents of experimentation has revolved around the search for a feminine epic, one that could serve as an alternative to the male stories that have dominated the history of poetry since Homer. She was educated in the Needles public schools, Barnard College, and The Writers Workshop, University of Iowa. At a certain point I wrote them down every morning; sometimes I do it more than others. DR: Yes, the 1971 poem about writing an earlier poem of the same title, a characteristically clever poetic ploy. Notley citesin parta reading by Robert Creeley as early inspiration for her writing more poetry. In the middle section, which is in prose, there are three people: me, Medea, and Dido, my gripe being that she founded a city, Carthage. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. After earning her BA from Barnard College and MFA from the Iowa Writers Workshop, Notley traveled extensively around the U.S. and abroad. Of course, we salute their past: all the greats, Guillaume Apollinaire and Pierre Reverdy, and some well-known others. 73DR: Did you like doing it? Somewhere, I have a photo of my father with a snake in his mouth and every year that he did it, he got a little tattoo of a star on his hand; and my mother danced the year she was pregnant with me the Hopi Corn Maidens Dance, and she taught me the song later, and my father taught me the chant for the Apache Dog Dance. Flowery mantle. Homeric sacrifice? noise of darkness fear of, darkness now mantle of innocence King of his death now Home, Ive come home He said, Ive come home They were sacrificed for, nothing, for distant instants of thought All for your thinking, Illustration courtesy of Sophie Herxheimer, The Goddess Who Created This Passing World. 30DR: In your work, theres something in the interstices between thoughts thats both intriguing and active. This is typical of what happens when I make a collage. 51My current process is to write in the morning. Alma, or The Dead Women. Frank had a characteristic, manly idea of existing in the world despite what you might call his femininity, and I think that Ted understood it as something like being a Jimmy Cagney or something from the movies: Ted knew how to take that stance. Maggie Nelson, in her excellent book about the women of the New York School, describes Notleys later aesthetic as Fuck You the reader, fuck mainstream poetry, fuck avant-garde poetry, fuck France, fuck America, fuck daily life, fuck death, and so on.. AroarA. I grew up with the Mojaves, going to school with them. Jack Would Speak Through the Imperfect Medium of Alice is an imagined rebuke by Beat writer Jack Kerouac of his biographers, many of whom focused on the lurid and sensational details of his personal life rather than the importance and impact of his writing. He was my political education really. Batsford Ltd., 1945. Alice Notley, Passeurs de la littrature des tats-Unis en France(1)/ Lhritage de Michel Foucault aux tats-Unis, City Ruins in American War Narratives/ Womens Sites of Struggles for Self-Determination. Considered by many to be among the most outstanding of living American poets, Alice Notley has amassed a body of work that includes intimate lyrics, experimental diaries, traditional genres, the postmodern series, the newly invented epic, political observation and invective, and the poem as novel. Orpheus is a stand-in for poetry. Alice Notley is an extraordinary reader of her own work, which, in the last year, she has read in the U.S.A. (Providence, R.I., and Brooklyn, N.Y.), in the U.K. (Birmingham), and in France (The Pompidou Center, Paris). In her essay The Poetics of Disobedience, Notley writes, I've been trying to train myself for thirty or forty years not to believe anything anyone tells me. In this apocalyptic, darkly funny, and, indeed, gutsy poem from Songs and Stories of the Ghouls (2011), Notley indicts logic itselfthe so-called common sense that reduces poetry to gender and experience to the known and erases whole cities in the whirlwind of war. She is the author of more than thirty-five books of poetry, includingMysteries of Small Houses(Penguin, 1998, winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize and a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize);Disobedience(Penguin, 2001, winner of the Griffin Prize); andGrave of Light: New and Selected Poems 1970-2005, which received the Lenore Marshall Poetry Prize. Ann Arbor: University of Michigan Press, 2005. However, when you dream you get more, particularly images, which I dont have enough of right now. Notley was born in Arizona and grew up in Needles, California. They wanted people to come and put the dances on, trying to help preserve them actually (there were about fifteen or twenty Indian Tribes in Arizona). Perpetually strapped for cash, the two took on whatever small jobs they could to support the family. I think that is what she said, because her greatest influence was Henry James: she takes his sense of the sentence and turns it into those stanzas. New York: Knopf, 1998. DR: Right, thats a strong, colonizing streak in Western culture. Notley gave birth to her and Berrigan's second child, Edmund Berrigan, at Colchester Hospital in 1974. 71AN: His werent poetry workshops: he taught undergraduate courses at Columbia. Alice Notley wanders through a Paris cemetery and speaks to her dead father about her life in France, where she has lived since 1992. In fact, he had a whole career as a journalist, and knew how to research, to inform his opinions, and to look at events without a preexisting opinion: thus, I learned how to do that from him, though I find that few today are so intellectually honest. DR: Your humor, in poems like The Prophet (which asks hilariously, Does a hippopotamus get the shakes?) is slightly less well known than your readiness to tackle political subjects. It also marks a shift in Notleys poetics away from the freewheeling chattiness of the New York School and toward something more visionary, historical, and grandly narrative. Now there are all these plaques in my neighborhood saying: Here 300 French school children were sent to the camps. I woke up one day. That was written in the Food Stamp Office in 1985. Indeed, you are often spoken about as an engaged poet, like your late husband, Doug Oliver. . She was educated in the Needles public schools, Barnard College, and The Writer's Workshop, University of Iowa. I went downstairs. Need a transcript of this episode? Its a reasonable question to ask about For the Ride, which begins with a challenge to the reader: Youll have to decipher whats going on, as it happens. (1954): that book is fantastic; he caught the new line, which he refers to in one of his letters. If this poem demonstrates her abiding interest in metaphysics, it also speaks to the immediate political realities of being a woman writer. As Notley writes in The Prophet (1981): One is you & all this & two & yet. The yet is where poetry begins. Its possible Im living in the apartment of someone who was taken away to the camps. For your work, from that angle, the place to start would be the collages you make, visual art. Nina Baym. I actually feel bad when I dont write, like yesterday, but I always have something going on. Her children, Anselm Berrigan and Edmond Berrigan are both New York Poets of a younger generation. I think I know how to do things with my voice that are entirely musical. DR: In your work, theres something in the interstices between thoughts thats both intriguing and active. The Indie rock group AroarA put music to her fascinating piece, In the Pines (2007). 15AN: Yes and a certain way of being cocky, which was very Irish, you know, a certain way of being witty, sort of a blunt kind of wittiness. River beneath appearances. Alice Notley (born November 8, 1945) is an American poet. I dont know anything about French pop culture at all; Im necessarily estranged from American pop culture, but I do sometimes know whats going on in music. 2Although she is a Parisian now, Alice Notley was also a key figure on the Lower Manhattan poetry scene particularly of the late 1970s and the 1980s. For the Ride skirts the edge of that story-sense. New York: Columbia Records, 1989. [3] DYLAN, Bob, The Man in the Old Black Coat. Oh Mercy. 70DR: Was the teaching of poetry workshops something that connected you to Kenneth Koch? Pictures from Breughel and Other Poems. Need a transcript of this episode? From this anarchic swirl, brilliant language emerges: Color sizzles my cells, a subversive moon appears, and a moment of playing the dulcimer / in a lemon grove startles. In these poems, as in much of Notleys work, details from daily life enter in fragments that can be both entertaining and jarringly serious. He was my political education really. In an important essay titled The Poetics of Disobedience, Notley says this shift began with her book The Descent of Alette (1992). 91DR: You quote the powerful, assertive voice of Marianne Moore in a poem. Alice Notley was born on November 8, 1945, in Bisbee, Arizona, and grew up in Needles, California. I knew him in New York, where I saw him from time to time; but after I moved here, he sought me out. Alice Notleys poetry has evolved through many phases and experiments, as her output continues to be strong, and is increasingly studied academically. The poet and essayist talks about her newest essay collection Minor Feelings, waking Alice Notley, Al Filreis, Erica Kaufman, Joe Milutis, Zack Pieper. I picked ten poems at random to see how dispersed they were based on my working theory that they had a wide geographical scope. Having published continuously for over 50 years, Notley is one of the most important and celebrated American poets of the 20th and 21st centuries. There was pleasure in working with that discovery. Actually, when I read The Descent of Alette, high-school students get similarly entranced. American Literature between the Wars, 1914-1945. Gen. Ed. 83DR: Yes, right, on one level, shall we say? Reading The Descent of Alette was like listening to Alice Coltrane for fourteen hours while riding the NYC subway at 3AM in the 1980s. Then generations of people had to have to deal with the bad behavior and figure out how to talk about it. AN: Like dolmensyes, something like that. Individual Time. Blinding the White Horse in Front of Me in Certain Magical Acts. AN: No, never: when I address enemies, I am not carrying them on my shoulder; Im being intensely annoyed by them. For death? Notleys next book, Mysteries of Small House (1998), is an experiment with the autobiographical mode, in which Notley was firstly trying to realize the first person singular as fully and nakedly as possible. Her subsequent book, Disobedience (2001), heads in the opposite direction, showing disobedience to the notions of truth and reality, featuring comic confrontations with reoccurring characters like Robert Mitch-ham, a man that closely resembles the actor Robert Mitchum. It seems nobody has any sense of tone of voice any more. In 1992, Notley moved to Paris with her second husband, the British poet and novelist Douglas Oliver (19372000), whom she met while living in England in 1974. [Alice Notley] -- "Considered by many to be among the most outstanding of living American poets, Alice Notley has amassed a body of work that includes intimate lyrics, experimental diaries, traditional genres, the . I didnt know any French; I had no French when I came here, basically, in my late forties. The Indie rock group, (2005), collects a series of sensitive essays she wrote about her own poetry and that of others from her poetic. I used to substitute teach for him, sometimes, at Brooklyn College. doing here? I just sat down and replied, Im a widow; Ive got two children; I know its been a year and a half since my husband died; Im trying to stay at home as much as I can and I have a part-time job (I was working for Allen Ginsberg at the time). 62I am furious about people calling their speech against Trump the resistance. However, I have a poem, which happened to be written before Trump was elected, in an anti-Trump-type anthology thats coming out because I figure any place I can get a poem published is an occasion to seize. They ran away into abstract poetry: that makes a lot of sense to me. She wound up in a nursing home, the life and soul of the nursing home: a great Irish lady. Alice Notley on her life with Ted Berrigan. AN: I was there. In a poem from the seventies, Notley mocks the downtown sensibility of the time with an older male poets rant: No women poets are any / good, if you want it / Straight, because they dont handle money.. All the political problems are based in history. I thought that they were voices of dead French people, but they just came from everywhere; the voices came for that poem. She has lived most extensively in Needles, in New York, and since 1992 in Paris, France. Request a transcript here. Thats why my poetry works so well. The artist Rudy Burckhardt once wrote that Notley may be our present-day Homer. 101AN: Well, thats what a lot of us got from her; Im heavily influenced by Gertrude Stein, having had two Stein periods; in the second one in the mid-1980s, I figured out a thing about repetition: that, if you repeated, you could pause long enough inside the repetition to figure out what to say next, which she was probably doing constantly. But her writing exerts intense attraction. She has long written in narrative and epic and genre-bending modes to discover new ways to explore the nature of the self and the social and cultural importance of disobedience. Courtesy of Alice Notley, re-photographed by Daesong Kim, April 2018. 4Since then, her poetry has continued to flow and evolve. Thats why my poetry works so well. . I had this education, so I could have been doing something else but did not want to, was animated by a desire to write poetry, which is truly valuable: I was writing peoples culture for the future. That piece is from a postcard of a painting of Notre-Dame and evil spirits flying out of it. In this midcareer lyric, the poet plays with the idea of citizenship in the everyday, exploring how, as poets and pedestrians, family members and lovers, people always exist somewhere betweenIandwe. I wrote a poem about it in. Also in my poem Disobedience (2001), I got the title in a dream about him. Miles Davis live at Birdland or something. It seemed that people like Joe Brainard were doing important, high-art collages and we could follow along without any pretention to be creating masterpieces. The Art of Poetry No. Then I figured out how to write them, so they enter the text. I thought that that printing added something, though: I enjoyed turning the book to read the poem. Theyre beautiful. This evolution in her work was also spurred by a series of personal losses, including of her husband (the poet Ted Berrigan), her step-daughter, and her brother. , Wesleyan University Press, 2006 (p.292-293), reproduced with permission of the author. But I met himI met everybodyaround 1968. Recent poems about pregnancy, birth, and being a mother. There was one called How Green Was My Hair Brush? which was a Ron title. I made this in about 2005. He came around when something bad happened to us. Or both but instantly. So I grew up as friends with Native Americans, and imbued with certain things; I was also attuned to what had happened, without knowing fully, because there was a kind of sadness among the Mojaves in my town, along with immense curiosity and interest among some Anglos. AN: I dont think thats true of her poetry though, and I dont think thats what John did exactly. French poetry was aimless, became philosophical, though now there are some younger poets that are starting to put the concrete back in, but slowly; I discussed it with French poets a few years ago, who confirmed for me that French poetry became abstract out of trauma from World War II, the occupation, and everything, authors being too traumatized to speak concretely. She was married the British poet Douglas Oliver until his death in 2000. We were all born in 1945, and despite a certain competitiveness at first, became good friends. 63DR: Your attitude towards staleness in the academic world, your sensitivity towards these questions of history and politics, indeed your measure and courage for speaking out reminds me of one first-generation New York School poet in particular, Kenneth Koch. Get book recommendations, fiction, poetry, and dispatches from the world of literature in your in-box. At the same moment, at Saint Marks, Bernadette Mayer, Anne Waldman, and I taught poetry workshops. Other beings begin to materialize, and it seems that they are all survivors of a global disaster. Its rare when a book summary isnt entirely sure whats going on inside, and such enigmas are either an irritant or central to Notleys mystique, depending on your taste. Lipstick, Queens, 1947 these were things he just wrote down on this list of possible titles. 16DR: Indeed, Berrigan and OHara were both Irish names. I think that is what she said, because her greatest influence was Henry James: she takes his sense of the sentence and turns it into those stanzas. Instead, she gravitated increasingly toward archetype and mytha search for primordial language bubbling under the surface. I had just been in the States. Born: Bisbee, Arizona, 8 November 1945. In that sad, beautiful book, theres so much irony, whereas some literary critics take everything at face value. Alice Notley - 1945-. Need a transcript Alice Notley has become one of Americas greatest living poets. As she writes in the preface, one of the books few footholds, This poem goes pretty far, and terrifies me, but it should be read for pleasure., Although Personism tells us that simply acting like ourselves is enough to make poetry, its lesson is also surprisingly difficult to absorb. But every time he quoted somebody he misquoted him or her without even knowing it, so he always made the texture his own. Left-wing Radicalism in the United States: A Foreign Creed? Now there are all these plaques in my neighborhood saying: Here 300 French school children were sent to the camps. I woke up one day. Nadja, in uvres compltes, tome 1. Mystery of Small Houses. The sense of something escaping is well illustrated by your poem, Where Leftover Misery Goes, among others. Which is something that John Ashbery would probably have agreed with, in a way. He could write any time he wanted to; Im like that too. 64AN: He was a good friend. The circle of younger poets who spent time with Notley and Berrigan included the aforementioned members of the Yellow Press team, Barbara Barg, Rochelle Kraut, Rose Lesniak, Bob Rosenthal, Steve Levine, Simon Schuchat, Tim Milk, and several others. I learned everything from the variable foot from Asphodel, That Greeny Flower.. Death, grief, and spirituality were terrain that the fast talk of New York School poetics hadnt fully engaged; so, too, was the political and feminist consciousness growing in Notleys work. New York: Granary Books, 2006. Ive mostly dredged it all up, and I know how to get to it without dreaming. Do you remember when he wrote the second The Circus? AN: He had no trust in his own ability to write things out, while he had faith in his ability to find things. We know how inane the decision was that everybody would have a car, completely destroying the planet. It always felt to me like I was enacting ideas that visual artists had normally, that I was figuring it out. Although Notley is less known to a casual poetry readershipher inventiveness and audacity are matched by her difficulty she is one of the singular voices in contemporary American poetry. Whats my plot? , Montreal: Club Roll, 2012. Anne Waldman says that one thing she learned at that point was that the Hindus say carry your enemy on your shoulder. Thats a counter-intuitive idea. Alice Notley (born 8 November 1945) is an American poet. That gives you a sense of the sound. AN: I use all those units and I am aware of how they overlap. Notley left Needles for New York City to attend Barnard College in 1963, desiring an escape from the isolation of her hometown.
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