I was wondering about this only last night - thank you, dude! There are three types of thrusters in Space Engineers: Atmospheric, Ion-based, and Hydrogen. Similar to our previous major releases, we hope you will take this opportunity to support the continued development of Space Engineers. Space Engineers isn't designed for my play style. This includes the introduction of new variants of some classic Space Engineers blocks like the Refinery, Assembler, Large Cargo container, Hydrogen tank, and the highly anticipated Hydrogen Thruster variant! - Decreased T3 LargeGrid Large from 150 to 100 - Decreased T2 SmallGrid Small from 40 to 10 - LargeBlockSmall from 0 to 3 Booster Components Striking spherical design, high pressure hydrogen storage tank. - SmallBlockSmall from 0 to 1 Booster Component, Updates: Also assuming those numbers would be different. Official localization: English, Russian, Chinese, German, French, Spanish I can't tell without a screen shot but I'm guessing you connected the small conveyor going to the rear thrusters to a large conveyor port on one of the medium cargo containers ends? This means that the % of positive ratings & number of ratings decide a mods position on the top charts. Flare's Tiered Hydros for Space Engineers. Large Hydrogen Tank Reskin Ratings range from overwhelmingly positive to overwhelmingly negative. #1 Burstar Aug 8, 2019 @ 8:23am A couple does the trick nicely. For example, a SG large hydrogen tank, which is 3x3 (27 blocks of volume), has a capacity of 160 kL of hydrogen. Thruster Comparison | Space Engineers Wiki | Fandom Space Engineers Wiki pages Explore Content Community in: Mobility Thruster Comparison View source Metrics from v1.199 (2021) Categories Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. Hull's Economical Hydrogen Thrusters (x10 efficiency) This little mod just reduces the hydrogen thruster's fuel consumption by 90%. just wondering how fast each consumes hydrogen, cause i dont want to fall all of a sudden. Cylindrical Column Drilling / harvesting i need help trying to make an equation that could tell me exactly how much Ice i need for a ship by taking the weight, number of hydrogen thrusters, and i also need to calculate its consumption rate by its weight thank you. The extra mass, volume, and conveyor tubing that these peripherals add to a hydrogen-powered ship can diminish the returns. everything smaller than 0.2m^3 fits through small conveyors which includes all ores and gases. While hydrogen thrusters provide the best option in the game currently for thrust-per-volume and thrust-per-surface-area, as well as the only thrust option that works equally well in and out of atmospheres, both atmospheric and ion thrusters are massively more efficient when the Hydrogen Engine is accounted for. For reference, 1 Newton (unit abbreviation 'N') is defined as the unit of force necessary to accelerate 1 kg of mass at 1 m/s^2. All rights reserved. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. We suggest you try the comment list with no filter applied, to browse all available. How many o2h2 generators does it take to power various h2 thrusters without drawing from tanks? - Low Fuel Efficiency For bonus points, how much ice does it take to fill each tank type? or use more Electrolyzers. (From 2.101pa to 2.110r) The latter is an important consideration because, while a large thruster requires 27 blocks of volume (3x3x3), it can typically only be replaced by 9 small thrusters due to thrusters damaging blocks in their thrust path. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. However, hydrogen storage is substantially less space-efficient than electrical energy storage. No comment were found matching the criteria specified. Advanced Thruster Components: New Component, Adjusted Cost: More Expensive/Requires Thruster Comp. Large Cargo Container Reskin - Decreased T4 SmallGrid Small from 85 to 60, Fixes: If you intend to fly horizontally in gravity, also create a control group for your braking thrusters (the fore thrusters) so that you can fly with Inertia Dampers switched on and braking thruster off to save hydrogen. Large Grid Small T3 Decreased from 100 to 85 - SmallBlockSmall from 1 to 0 Booster Component Hydrogen will pass freely through large or small conveyors as long as you don't have a sorter actively blocking it. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Battery, Small Battery, Large Reactor, Small Reactor, Solar Panel, Hydrogen Engine, Wind Turbine, Survival Basic Refinery, Assembler, Basic Assembler, Drill, Grinder Block, Refinery, Welder Block, Projector, O2/H2 Generator, Oxygen Farm, Storage Flare's Tiered Hydrogen Thrust is the perfect thruster pack for all of your ships, whatever size they may be, featuring 5 Tiers of thrusters. Instead of using battery or reactor power, they burn Hydrogen gas as fuel to propel a starship in the desired direction. 1 kN is 1000 N, and 1 MN is 1000 kN (1,000,000 N). The industrial conveyor pipe, provided in 7 variants for large grids. @Thalyn - Check your tanks again. Hydrogen Thrusters are the second type of thruster to be added to the Space Engineers game. The Small Grid, Large Hydrogen Thruster has a MaxPowerConsumption of 0.6 (officially in MW). Argue all you want but the fact is most likely exactly what I said. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Connector, Small Connector/Ejector, Collector, Conveyor Sorter, Conveyor Junction, Conveyor Frame, Conveyor Tube, Curved Conveyor Tube, Small Conveyor, Small Conveyor Tube, Small Curved Tube, Conveyor Converter, Mechanical Blocks & Gravity Control It also calculates charging durations, maximum jump distances, and more. The easiest thing to do is generally to figure out how many tonnes your thrusters can hold up in gravity and treat that as a maximum weight. Advanced Thruster Component: Simple worlds run smoothly even on old Xbox, but a more complex world with rich object interactions could overload even XBox One X. Small Grid Large T2 Decreased from 60 to 50 Heavy industry focuses on industry, manufacturing, and logistics. Decreased Silver Cost from 5 to 2 12 votes, 11 comments. Instead of having to hold the (W key) key down, these controls increase and decrease constant thrust for you. Ill start working on an energy consumption chart! KSP is chief amongst which that taught me to keep fuel usage low and impulse periods short. Gravity produced by planets and gravity generators. Either something isn't built far enough to be functional (survival mode), or there's a connection that's not connected right somewhere. Think about modern-day NASA technology extrapolated 60 years into the future. You can start by looking up thruster information here : https://spaceengineerswiki.com/Thruster Your question cannot be answered easily because the small/large grid small/large type thrusters have different values. Industrial Assembler Larger than that size requires large conveyor. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Big, red, button. Large thruster is 5.7% more fuel efficient. Conveyor tubes push, so they are pushing into the cargo. - Efficiency Increased from 0.5 to 25, Additions: By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Valve Corporation. . Its time for the hydrogen engine.. The price of the Heavy Industry Pack is $3.99 USD or your regional equivalent. A departure from the classic, angular conveyor design. Both small thrusters are still superior in thrust-per-surface-area compared to the same-grid-size large thruster, however, which means that replacing a large thruster with even only 9 small thrusters will improve total thrust. Two SG large batteries and a single SG large atmospheric thruster, which occupies the same volume of 3x3x9, have a total battery capacity of 2 MWh, or 7200 MW-seconds of energy. This update includes both free features as well as the option of paid DLC. Space Engineers strives to follow the laws of physics and doesn't use technologies that wouldn't be feasible in the near future. Automation & Communication Why the fuss about necrothreading anyway? Cockpit, Fighter Cockpit, Control Station, Flight Seat, Helm, Passenger Seat, Control Panel, Button Panel, Remote Control, Custom Turret Controller, AI Basic, AI Flight, AI Defensive, AI Offensive, AI Recorder. Investigate this tiny industrial complex and take advantage of the provided manufacturing facilities or strike out and explore. Blueprints save your ship or station on a blueprint and paste it into your game Manual building in survival mode use welder to assemble blocks from components; use grinder to disassemble and reuse components Small Grid Large T3 Decreased from 90 to 77, Fixes: Ranked 7 of 100,835 with 70,457 (26 today) downloads. If you're in space, Ion Thrusters are the way to go. A new, highly accessible version of the assembler. Increased T2 Costs: It is a sandbox game about engineering, construction, exploration and survival in space and on planets. My GPS if filled with locations of every other ore.. lol. more tanks = more hydrogen regeneration. Someone reading it might have gotten the wrong information. Space Engineers Heavy Industry pack includes Large Magnetic plate, Beam Blocks, Industrial conveyor pipes, Cylindrical Column, Vertical button panel, Large Hydrogen Tank Reskin, Large Cargo Container Reskin, Industrial Refinery, Industrial Assembler, Industrial Hydrogen Thrusters and Hazard pattern armor skin. Join now to share your own content, we welcome creators and consumers alike and look forward to your comments. - Decreased T2 LargeGrid Large from 75 to 50 An Ion-Hydrogen hybrid shuttle operates mainly at orbital space stations and it takes passengers down to the near-by planet surface. Large Hydrogen Thruster consumes 6,426.7 H/s Small hydrogen Thruster consumes 1,092.5 H/s Small Grid: Large Hydrogen Thruster consumes 514.1 H/s Small Hydrogen Thruster consumes 109.2 H/s Those consumption rates are for max thrust. Localized interface This subreddit is about the video game "Space Engineers", a sandbox game on PC Industrial Hydrogen Thrusters However, if you find the right balance, the above-average acceleration and versatility of the Hydrogen Thrusters makes up for the added complexity and volume. I dont know about the first question but the second seems like a terrible idea. Meanwhile, a SG large battery, which is 3x2x3 (18 blocks of volume) can store 1 MWh of power, or 55.5 kWh per block, 3375 times as much energy density as a tank of hydrogen. - Insane Speed As with all thrusters it's recommended to create control groups, one for all hydrogen thrusters, and one for only the lift-off hydrogen thrusters. - Decreased T1 LargeGrid Small from 25 to 3 A truly massive large grid magnetic plate (3x3x2), and a small grid version. Volumetric objects are structures composed from block-like modules interlocked in a grid. Fixed Issue Where N/A Would Appear During Manufacturing, Fixes: This workshop item cannot be redistributed without explicit permission. Instead of using battery or reactor power, they burn Hydrogen gas as fuel to propel a starship in the desired direction. Large Grid Small T2 Decreased from 70 to 55 Scenarios offer linear story with action-packed gameplay, while the majority of Space Engineers scenarios feature unique sandbox environments where players create their own challenges. Gyroscope, Atmospheric Thruster, Ion Thruster, Hydrogen Thruster, Wheel Suspension 1x1, Wheel Suspension 3x3, Wheel Suspension 5x5, Parachute Hatch, Mining & Manufacturing I can't find any reference to ti in the configuration, so if there is such a limit it must be hard-coded into the game. When in space remember to turn off your dampeners while coasting between asteroids. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Space Engineers is an open world sandbox game defined by creativity and exploration. I have your T2 hydro on and when I land and turn them off the dont turn back on unless i cut power to the ship and turn the ship back on. Valve Corporation. Cosmetic upgrades are included as paid DLC content. Large Cargo Container, Medium Cargo Container, Small Cargo Container, Oxygen Tank, Hydrogen Tank, Store, Contracts Block, Inventory Management CORE FEATURES Armor panels come in a wide selection of variants and were designed with multiple uses in mind. A New T5 Booster Thruster Industrial conveyor pipes Show your continued support for Space Engineers and check out the Heavy Industry Pack. Due to a fault in Keen's logic, the gas is consumed as if it were measured in joules rather than watt-hours, so the per-second consumption is 0.6 / 0.001556, or ~385.6 units per second. Pretty much the most complicated thing in the game to set up and use. Fixed AdvThrusterComp Model Issue when dropped - Decreased T3 LargeGrid Small from 85 to 60 This means that ion thrusters range from 4.82 to 8.61 times as efficient as hydrogen thrusters, and atmospheric thrusters 10.72 to 25.83 times as efficient. However if they they are idle (showing the flame but producing no thrust) they consume a some hydrogen. First-person & Third-person Single-player you are the sole space engineer Heavy Industry expands your creative possibilities, delivering one of our most expansive DLCs with nearly 100 new blocks and block variants! Hydrogen hydrogen thrusters, hydrogen tanks and hydrogen bottles That can fuel the single large atmospheric thruster for 3000 seconds, or 50 minutes, while providing 20% more thrust (576 kN from the large atmospheric thruster, versus 480 kN from the large hydrogen). It should be some fairly simple math to determine if your available tanks will be able to supply the number of thrusters you have. Good work! We are excited to announce our second update in the new Warfare series! Hmm any idea as to when that was added? For atmospheric thrusters, the thrust per MW varies from 385.71 for the LG Large to 160 for the SG Small. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://steamcommunity.com/app/244850/discussions/0/810938810587978916/. Large Magnetic plate Heavy Industry includes new blocks to outfit your base, space station, or fortress including the new Armor Panel. It will only burn less fuel per second. They can be looted but beware, they often contain booby traps! Tier 3 Hydrogen: - SmallBlockLarge from 25 to 90 Advanced Thruster Components I've found it on an asteroid, but I'm not sure if it also spawns on planets. I'll have to update my mods. The acceleration is drastically lower, even after doubling the number of thrusters in various directions. As all thrusters, large hydrogen thrusters cause damage to blocks up to 6 blocks length in front of them, and small thrusters up to 3 blocks length. Space Engineers Thruster Calculator . Space Engineers Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Thus 9.81 N of force is required to counter the gravity of 1 kg of grid mass against 1 G of gravitational acceleration (and, of course, more is needed to actually go _up_ and carry cargo). The lack of storage density means that most hydrogen-driven craft must also have an O2/H2 generator on board (or multiple), and the ice to fuel them, increasing mass and decreasing the net thrust advantage. Tier 2 Hydrogen: Platnum Cost Increased from 4 to 7, Harvested Ore Increased from 0.5 to 0.9 Under default settings, Platinum cannot be found on planets, only on moons or asteroids. Ratings are calculated using Evan Miller's method (based on a Wilson score confidence interval) that is self-correcting. If your design can fit large thrusters by all means you should use them: Large thruster has 33% better thrust to weight ratio. Weapons automatic rifle, small and large explosive warheads, small ship gatling gun, small ship missile launcher - LargeBlockSmall from 40 to 100 Advanced Thruster Components Procedural asteroids an infinite number of asteroids to the game world It is, however, typically impractical to attempt to use small-grid thrusters on a large grid. Custom worlds offer variety of customizable worlds where you can start your own scenario. An asteroid mining ship with hydrogen thrusters I've currently got a smallgrid 4-drill miner with two tanks and two h2gens. Space Engineers shouldnt be about troops; it should be about the machinery you build. This video will tell you everything you need to know to build a functioning hydrogen system, along with a hydrogen ship that will get you to space.Sorry for the lag, that is me not having OBS set up properly, not my computer. Super-large worlds the size of the world to 1,000,000,000 km in diameter (almost infinite) For shuttles, its feasible to take advantage of both the efficiency of the atmospheric (or ion) thrusters and the power-to-surface ratio of the hydrogen thrusters in one ship, by using atmospheric (or ion) thrusters as the "primary thrust", and treating the hydrogen thrusters as secondary "afterburner". Wait, wait, wait they separated the files!? Hey flare would you post the damage dimensions for each of the thrusters please? If you dont have any rotors or pistons pushing up against another block, its safe to just turn off the engines. Building blocks over 200 blocks (gravity generators, jump drive, turrets, doors, landing gears, assembler, refinery, rotors, wheels, thrusters, pistons, wind turbine and many more) Its older but works. Problem is, a trip between the ice cap of the moon back to base burns a disturbing amount of fuel as it is. Increased Mass From 25 to 35 Given that you get 10l of hydrogen per kg of ice they can fit equivalent of 1600kg and 50t respectively. Is possible to make an O2 gen to make only hydrogen/ oxigen? The upside, of course, is you do not need to carry hydrogen. This subreddit is an unofficial community about the video game "Space Engineers", a sandbox game on PC and Xbox, about engineering, construction, exploration and survival in space and on planets. Pure Hydrogen ships work well in space and in the atmosphere, but require large tanks. Changed Internal Version Number From Minor Balance Pass to Balance Update. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=514062285. All rights reserved. It is lighter than 4 small ones, but has almost as much power as 5. Creative and survival mode with your friends As with our previous updates, this DLC and update will be released on all supported platforms simultaneously. 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